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29 de outubro de 2009

 

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Se São Tomé tivesse um pintinho



- Então você não acredita em Deus?

- Não.

- E se ele aparecesse pra você?

- Buscaria um psiquiatra.

- E se o psiquiatra dissesse que você não estava louco.

- Então o louco era eu e o psiquiatra.

- Mas e se ele realmente provasse que era Deus. Tipo dizendo coisas sobre você que só você pode saber.

- Ah, então seria uma prova cabal que era um produto da minha cabeça. Por outro lado, se ele dissesse coisas que eu nunca soube seria impossível ser gerado pela minha mente, logo eu poderia, por exemplo, pedir que ele cante Meu pintinho amarelinho em sueco, euskera, hebraico, mandarim e javanês. Como eu não conheço nenhuma palavra nesses idiomas seria impossível eu projetar uma ilusão que falasse tais línguas. Depois iria buscar pessoas que falassem esses idiomas e repetisse o que o suposto Deus teria cantado, caso a tradução fosse realmente "Meu pintinho amarelinho cabe aqui na minha mão...", ficaria provado pelo menos momentaneamente que aquele Deus não era fruto de minha imaginação, mas ainda assim eu ia considerar outras possibilidades.

- Ou seja, que o criador do universo tá na tua frente e não te ocorre nada melhor que pedir que ele cante Meu pintinho amarelinho em cinco idiomas?

- Ao princípio, sim.

- Ai, quanta blasfêmia!

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Parece aquele papo do Babel Fish, que segundo Douglas Adams, é uma prova da não existência de Deus. Segundo o autor, a existência de um peixe tão absurdamente útil escancaria a presença de uma certa intenção criativa - no caso, um peixe tradutor universal em todas as línguas. Isso seria uma bobeira de Deus, que a priori, deveria se manter discreto e incógnito. Logo, ele não existe.
 
Cornflake,

O maior elogio que eu possa fazer a alguem - Voce me lembrou William Blake em "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"

A Memorable Fancy.
The Prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel dined with me, and I asked them how they dared so roundly to assert that God spake to them; and whether they did not think at the time, that they would be misunderstood, & so be the cause of imposition.
Isaiah answer'd. 'I saw no God, nor heard any, in a finite organical perception; but my senses discover'd the infinite in every thing, and as I was then perswaded, & remain confirm'd, that the voice of honest indignation is the voice of God, I cared not for consequences but wrote.'
Then I asked: 'does a firm perswasion that a thing is so, make it so?'
He replied: 'All poets believe that it does, & in ages of imagination this firm perswasion removed mountains; but many are not capable of a firm perswasion of any thing.'
Then Ezekiel said. 'The philosophy of the east taught the first principles of human perception: some nations held one principle for the origin & some another; we of Israel taught that the Poetic Genius (as you now call it) was the first principle and all the others merely derivative, which was the cause of our despising the Priests & Philosophers of other countries, and prophecying that all Gods would at last be proved to originate in ours & to be the tributaries of the Poetic Genius; it was this that our great poet King David desired so fervently & invokes so pathetic'ly, saying by this he conquers enemies & governs kingdoms; and we so loved our God. that we cursed in his name all the deities of surrounding nations, and asserted that they had rebelled; from these opinions the vulgar came to think that all nations would at last be subject to the jews.'
'This' said he, 'like all firm perswasions, is come to pass; for all nations believe the jews' code and worship the jews' god, and what greater subjection can be?'
I heard this with some wonder, & must confess my own conviction. After dinner I ask'd Isaiah to favour the world with his lost works; he said none of equal value was lost. Ezekiel said the same of his.
I also asked Isaiah what made him go naked and barefoot three years? he answer'd, 'the same that made our friend Diogenes the Grecian.'
I then asked Ezekiel why he eat dung, & lay so long on his right & left side? he answer'd, 'the desire of raising other men into a perception of the infinite; this the North American tribes practise, & is he honest who resists his genius or conscience. only for the sake of present ease or gratification?'

The ancient tradition that the world will be consumed in fire at the end of six thousand years is true, as I have heard from Hell.
For the cherub with his flaming sword is hereby commanded to leave his guard at the tree of life, and when he does, the whole creation will be consumed and appear infinite and holy whereas it now appears finite & corrupt.
This will come to pass by an improvement of sensual enjoyment.
But first the notion that man has a body distinct from his soul is to be expunged; this I shall do, by printing in the infernal method, by corrosives, which in Hell are salutary and medicinal, melting apparent surfaces away, and displaying the infinite which was hid.
If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite.
For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narow chinks of his cavern.
 
Hemet, eu preciso urgentemente começar a ler Douglas Adams, mas sempre aparece algo que se interpõe. Um Dawkins, um Hemingway, um Palahniuk ...


Zarat

Meu inglês anda meio kaput depois de 7 anos sem praticar, mas entendi basicamente o texto. Gracias.
 
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